Finally!
I don't know about y'all but I've been waiting for this report. This may not count as a Sign of the Times per se' but it has definitely been a world event.
They say there is strength in numbers but I think now we can add bravery to that saying as well. REAL scientists are gathering together and standing against the devilish deception that has been "AlGore's Man Made Global Warming Franchise" (Copyright pending).
These people have had enough!
HEAT OF THE MOMENT
Hundreds of scientists reject global warmingBasing policy on carbon dioxide levels 'potentially disastrous economic folly'
Posted: December 21, 20071:00 a.m. Eastern
By Bob Unruh© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com
A new U.S. Senate report documents hundreds of prominent scientists – experts in dozens of fields of study worldwide – who say global warming and cooling is a cycle of nature and cannot legitimately be connected to man's activities.
"Of course I believe in global warming, and in global cooling – all part of the natural climate changes that the Earth has experienced for billions of years, caused primarily by the cyclical variations in solar output," said research physicist John W. Brosnahan, who develops remote-sensing instruments for atmospheric science for clients including the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and NASA.
However, he said, "I have not seen any sort of definitive, scientific link to man-made carbon dioxide as the root cause of the current global warming, only incomplete computer models that suggest that this might be the case.
"Even though these computer climate models do not properly handle a number of important factors, including the role of precipitation as a temperature regulator, they are being (mis-)used to force a political agenda upon the U.S.," he continued. "While there are any number of reasons to reduce carbon dioxide generation, to base any major fiscal policy on the role of carbon dioxide in climate change would be inappropriate and imprudent at best and potentially disastrous economic folly at the worst."
The report compiled observations from more than 400 prominent scientists from more than two dozen nations who have voiced objections to the so-called "consensus" on "man-made global warming."
Many of the scientists are current or former participants in the United Nation's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, whose present officials, along with former Vice President Al Gore, have asserted a definite connection.
The new report comes from the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee's office of the GOP ranking member, and cites the hundreds of opinions issued just in 2007 that global warming and man's activities are unrelated.
"Even some in the establishment media now appear to be taking notice of the growing number of skeptical scientists," the introduction to the Senate report said. "In October, the Washington Post Staff Writer Juliet Eilperin conceded the obvious, writing that climate skeptics 'appear to be expanding rather than shrinking.'"
"Many scientists from around the world have dubbed 2007 as the year man-made global warming fears 'bite the dust,'" the introduction said.
And there probably would be many more scientists making such statements, were it not for the fear of retaliation from those aboard the global-warming-is-caused-by-SUVs bandwagon, the report said.
"Many of my colleagues with whom I spoke share these views and report on their inability to publish their skepticism in the scientific or public media," noted Nathan Paldor, professor of Dynamical Meteorology and Physical Oceanography at Hebrew University in Jerusalem.
He's authored almost 70 peer-reviewed studies, and said, "First, temperature changes, as well as rates of temperature changes (both increase and decrease) of magnitudes similar to that reported by IPCC to have occurred since the Industrial revolution (about 0.8C in 150 years or even 0.4C in the last 35 years) have occurred in Earth's climatic history. There's nothing special about the recent rise!"
At an earlier hearing, Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla., had confronted Stephen Johnson, administrator of the EPA, about a threatening e-mail from a group that includes the EPA. That e-mail from the American Council on Renewable Energy was addressed to Marlo Lewis, of the Competitive Enterprise Institute, and said, "It is my intention to destroy your career as a liar. If you produce one more editorial against climate change, I will launch a campaign against your professional integrity. I will call you a liar and charlatan to the Harvard community of which you and I are members. I will call you out as a man who has been bought by Corporate America. Go ahead, guy. Take me on."
It was signed Michael T. Eckhart, president of ACORE.
The scientists cited in the new study hail from Germany, Brazil, the Netherlands, New Zealand, France, Russia and the United States, and defied the idea, being carried forward by various political and environmental agendas, that man's activities are endangering the future of the Earth through contributions to a rise in temperatures.
Paleoclimatologist Tim Patterson, professor in the department of Earth sciences at Carleton University in Ottawa, recently converted from a believer in man-made climate change to a skeptic. Patterson noted that the notion of a "consensus" of scientists aligned with the UN IPCC or former Vice President Al Gore is false.
"I was at the Geological Society of America meeting in Philadelphia in the fall and I would say that people with my opinion were probably in the majority," he said.
The report was generated after UN IPCC chief Rajendra Pachauri implied there were only "about half a dozen" skeptical scientists left in the world.
Former Vice President Gore, of course, has likened skeptics of the global-warming philosophy to "flat Earth society members."
But the Senate report noted the scientists who are expressing a dissatisfaction with such generalizations include experts in climatology, geology, oceanography, biology, glaciology, biogeography, meteorology, economics, chemistry, mathematics, environmental sciences, engineering, physics and paleoclimatology.
"Some of those profiled have won Nobel Prizes for their outstanding contribution to their field of expertise and many shared a portion of the UN IPCC Nobel Peace Price with Vice President Gore," the report said.
Besides the Nobel Gore shared over the issue of global warming, he also won an Oscar for his work on "An Inconvenient Truth," which proclaims the validity of man-made global warming and advocates urgent action.
However, Muriel Newman, director of the New Zealand Centre for Political Research, has told Academy President Sid Ganis and Executive Director Bruce Davis that honor should be withdrawn.
That's because British High Court judge Michael Burton has concluded Gore's documentary should be shown in British schools only with guidance notes to prevent political indoctrination. The decision followed a lawsuit by a father, Stewart Dimmock, who claimed the film contained "serious scientific inaccuracies, political propaganda and sentimental mush."
The Nobel panel honored Gore and the IPCC for their efforts to spread awareness of "man-made climate change."
But the British court pointed to 11 inaccuracies in the production:
"The truth, as inconvenient as it is to Al Gore, is that his so-called documentary contained critical distortions that are quite contrary to the principles of good documentary journalism," Newman said. "Good documentaries should be factually correct. Clearly this documentary is not."
The court ruled the Guidance Notes to Teachers must make clear that:
The film is a political work and promotes only one side of the argument.
If teachers present the film without making this plain they may be in breach of section 406 of the Education Act 1996 and guilty of political indoctrination.
Eleven inaccuracies have to be specifically drawn to the attention of school children.
The inaccuracies, according to the court, include:
1. The film claims that melting snows on Mount Kilimanjaro evidence global warming. The Government's expert was forced to concede that this is not correct.
2.The film suggests that evidence from ice cores proves that rising CO2 causes temperature increases over 650,000 years. The court found that the film was misleading: Over that period the rises in CO2 lagged behind the temperature rises by 800-2000 years.
3. The film uses emotive images of Hurricane Katrina and suggests that this has been caused by global warming. The Government's expert had to accept that it was "not possible" to attribute one-off events to global warming.
4. The film shows the drying up of Lake Chad and claims that this was caused by global warming. The Government's expert had to accept that this was not the case.
The film claims that a study showed that polar bears had drowned due to disappearing arctic ice. It turned out that Mr. Gore had misread the study: In fact four polar bears drowned, and this was because of a particularly violent storm.
And others.
The new study includes opinions from scientists at Harvard, NASA, NOAA, NCAR, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, the Danish National Space Center, U.S. Department of Energy, Princeton, the EPA, Hebrew University of Jerusalem, the Pasteur Institute in Paris, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute, the University of Helsinki, Notre Dame, Stockholm University and others.
The study is intended to dispel the validity of such statements as Associated Press reporter Seth Borenstein's description of a scientist as "one of the few remaining scientists skeptical of the global warming harm caused by industries that burn fossil fuels."
"Even if the concentration of 'greenhouse gases' double man would not perceive the temperature impact," said Russian scientist Oleg Sorochtin, of the Institute of Oceanology at the Russian Academy of Sciences. He's authored more than 300 studies, nine books and a 2006 paper titled, "The Evolution and the Prediction of Global Climate Changes on Earth."
"I find the Doomsday picture Al Gore is painting – a six-meter sea level rise, 15 times the IPCC number – entirely without merit," said Hendrik Tennekes, a pioneer at the Netherlands' Royal National Meteorological Institute. "I protest vigorously the idea that the climate reacts like a home heating system to a changed setting of the thermostat: just turn the dial, and the desired temperature will soon be reached."
"The media is promoting an unprecedented hyping related to global warming," added Eugenia Hackbart, the chiefmeteorologist at the MetSul Meteorologia Weather Center in Sao Leopoldo, Brazil. "The media and many scientists are ignoring very important facts that point to a natural variation in the climate system as the cause of the recent global warming."
Gore, as recently as Nov. 5, has said:
"But when you're reporting on a story like the one you're covering today, where you have people all around the world, you don't take – you don't search out for someone who still believes the Earth is flat and give them equal time. And the reason the IPCC was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, the thousands of scientists who make up that group, have for almost 20 years now created a very strong scientific consensus that is as strong a consensus as you'll ever see in science, that the climate crisis is real, human beings are responsible for it."
A WND reader said perhaps a remedy would be to reissue Gore's Nobel and Academy wards under the designation "best in class for science fiction," or appoint a prosecutor to investigate the extent of fraud committed "at the expense of the global community.
WND earlier reported more than 500 scientists were cited by an analysis of peer-reviewed literature by the Hudson Institute as having published documentation questioning an least one facet of the global-warming agenda.
The assessment supports another study on which WND reported recently, one that revealed carbon dioxide levels were largely irrelevant to global warming.
Those results prompted Reid Bryson, founding chairman of the Department of Meteorology at the University of Wisconsin, to quip, "You can go outside and spit and have the same effect as doubling carbon dioxide."
The analysis by Hudson Institute Senior Fellow Dennis Avery said 300 of those scientists have found evidence that a natural moderate 1,500-year climate cycle has produced more than a dozen global warmings similar to the current circumstances since the last Ice Age and that such warmings are linked to variations in the sun's irradiance.
"We appear to be overplaying this global warming issue as global warming is nothing new," wrote B.P. Radhakrishna in the new Senate study. He's president of the Geological Society of India. "It has happened in the past, not once but several times, giving rise to glacial-interglacial cycles."
"The global-warming mania continues with more and more hype and less and less thinking. With religious zeal, people look for issues or evnts to blame on global warming," said Kelvin Kemm, former of South Africa's Atomic Energy Corp.
And there you have it! The end of this fraud is near. Maybe not in 2007 seeing as how it's days from being over..... but soon. Very soon.
And we will be watching.....
Friday, December 21, 2007
Friday, December 14, 2007
Well...ok. As long as its ok with the Muslims.
Howdy folks!
Boy, you guys really MUST be praying out there. I couldn't believe my eyes when I read this article but... there it was.
Apparently Muslims and Hindus in England have had enough when it comes to the RABID attempts at removing Christ from Christmas. They say it's "Gone too far".
Let me get this straight.....The Muslims are saying its gone too far?!?!
British Muslims say: Put Christ back in Christmas
Hindus, Sikhs, and Human Rights Commission agree that secularization has gone too far.
From: Reuters
London - Muslim leaders joined Britain's equality watchdog Monday in urging Britons to enjoy Christmas without worrying about offending non-Christians.
"It's time to stop being daft about Christmas. It's fine to celebrate and it's fine for Christ to be star of the show," said Trevor Phillips, chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
Mr. Phillips, reflecting on media reports of schools scrapping nativity plays and local councils celebrating "Winterval" instead of Christmas, worried the unintended consequences of secularizing the holiday would "fuel community tension."
So he joined forces with minority religious leaders to put out a blunt message to the politically correct: leave Christmas alone.
Muslim Council of Britain spokesman Shayk Ibrahim Mogra said, "To suggest celebrating Christmas and having decorations offends Muslims is absurd. Why can't we have more nativity scenes in Britain?"
"Hindus celebrate Christmas, too. It's a great holiday for everyone living in Britain," said Anil Bhanot, general secretary of the UK Hindu Council.
Sikh spokesman Indarjit Singh said: "Every year I am asked 'Do I object to the celebration of Christmas?' It's an absurd question. As ever, my family and I will send out our Christmas cards to our Christian friends and others."
More than 70 percent of Britons – some 41 million – are Christian, according to 2001 census figures. Muslims are the second-largest religious group with about 1.6 million in Britain.
Suicide bombings by British Islamic extremists in July 2005, which killed 52 people in London, have prompted much soul-searching about religion and integration in Britain, a debate that has been echoed across Europe.
The threat of radical Islam, highlighted by the July attacks, prompted reflection about Britain's attitude to ethnic minorities and debate about whether closer integration was more important than promoting multiculturalism.
Folks, with what we have seen lately with the world practically bowing down to Muslin extremism this is nothing short of a miracle! It was very hard not read this and wonder when the other shoe was going to drop and I'm not usually that cynical believe me.
Imagine the people reading this in America and realizing that now (At least in another part of the world) we can celebrate Christmas again (That's CHRIST-mass to you) without fear of riots from offended Muslims.
Oh Goody!
So now we have Muslims in England saying Christmas, er, CHRIST-mas is A-OK and we have avid atheist author Phillip Pullman (of Golden Compass fame) unintentionally bringing people to look at Jesus the Christ because his new movie and books are dreary and literally Hopeless unlike its much better CHRIST-ian counterparts, Narnia and Lord of the Rings.
I love it!You just gotta see God the Father's hand in all this.
Pardon an immature moment here but I must say......
um, Mr. devil? Just a word for you.
Nah nah nah nah naaaa nah!
So there.
Boy, you guys really MUST be praying out there. I couldn't believe my eyes when I read this article but... there it was.
Apparently Muslims and Hindus in England have had enough when it comes to the RABID attempts at removing Christ from Christmas. They say it's "Gone too far".
Let me get this straight.....The Muslims are saying its gone too far?!?!
British Muslims say: Put Christ back in Christmas
Hindus, Sikhs, and Human Rights Commission agree that secularization has gone too far.
From: Reuters
London - Muslim leaders joined Britain's equality watchdog Monday in urging Britons to enjoy Christmas without worrying about offending non-Christians.
"It's time to stop being daft about Christmas. It's fine to celebrate and it's fine for Christ to be star of the show," said Trevor Phillips, chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
Mr. Phillips, reflecting on media reports of schools scrapping nativity plays and local councils celebrating "Winterval" instead of Christmas, worried the unintended consequences of secularizing the holiday would "fuel community tension."
So he joined forces with minority religious leaders to put out a blunt message to the politically correct: leave Christmas alone.
Muslim Council of Britain spokesman Shayk Ibrahim Mogra said, "To suggest celebrating Christmas and having decorations offends Muslims is absurd. Why can't we have more nativity scenes in Britain?"
"Hindus celebrate Christmas, too. It's a great holiday for everyone living in Britain," said Anil Bhanot, general secretary of the UK Hindu Council.
Sikh spokesman Indarjit Singh said: "Every year I am asked 'Do I object to the celebration of Christmas?' It's an absurd question. As ever, my family and I will send out our Christmas cards to our Christian friends and others."
More than 70 percent of Britons – some 41 million – are Christian, according to 2001 census figures. Muslims are the second-largest religious group with about 1.6 million in Britain.
Suicide bombings by British Islamic extremists in July 2005, which killed 52 people in London, have prompted much soul-searching about religion and integration in Britain, a debate that has been echoed across Europe.
The threat of radical Islam, highlighted by the July attacks, prompted reflection about Britain's attitude to ethnic minorities and debate about whether closer integration was more important than promoting multiculturalism.
Folks, with what we have seen lately with the world practically bowing down to Muslin extremism this is nothing short of a miracle! It was very hard not read this and wonder when the other shoe was going to drop and I'm not usually that cynical believe me.
Imagine the people reading this in America and realizing that now (At least in another part of the world) we can celebrate Christmas again (That's CHRIST-mass to you) without fear of riots from offended Muslims.
Oh Goody!
So now we have Muslims in England saying Christmas, er, CHRIST-mas is A-OK and we have avid atheist author Phillip Pullman (of Golden Compass fame) unintentionally bringing people to look at Jesus the Christ because his new movie and books are dreary and literally Hopeless unlike its much better CHRIST-ian counterparts, Narnia and Lord of the Rings.
I love it!You just gotta see God the Father's hand in all this.
Pardon an immature moment here but I must say......
um, Mr. devil? Just a word for you.
Nah nah nah nah naaaa nah!
So there.
Tuesday, December 4, 2007
Golden Compass
Here's a Sign of the Times if there ever was one.
You've probably heard of the new movie "The Golden Compass" coming out, yes? Well, I thought it important to post some things here for you to read about it. The book (one in a trilogy) that the movie in based on was written by an atheist and is in essence about "Killing God"
This is by Chuck Norris (Yeah, that one.)
'The Golden Compass' goes south – way south
Posted: December 3, 20071:00 a.m. Eastern
Last weekend we released a new video on YouTube giving the reasons why former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee is "Chuck Norris approved" for president.
This upcoming weekend I'm giving the worldwide release (Dec. 7) of the children's movie, "The Golden Compass," a definite "Chuck Norris disapproval."
I normally don't critique others' movies, but this one not only warrants critiquing but condemning. The reason is it will very subtly push agnosticism, atheism, secularism and anti-Christian thoughts upon youthful minds and hearts.
There is hot debate right now about this movie all over the Internet. And liberal news agencies and publications are waging war to assure its global proliferation, viewing and success.
Is this for real?
When I first heard about the movie via e-mail, I thought it was another Internet-perpetuated urban legend. I was shocked to discover it was real, and the books upon which it is based have already gained some award-winning acclaim. (They are a trilogy from Philip Pullman called "His Dark Materials.")
On the surface, "The Golden Compass" comes across as another fantasy-filled movie like "Harry Potter" or "Chronicles of Narnia." What lies beneath, however, is a tale spun with intention of promoting antagonism against the church and Christian belief.
The surface story
The story is fairly simple: "In a parallel universe, young [12-year old] Lyra Belacqua journeys to the far North to save her best friend and other kidnapped children from terrible experiments by a mysterious organization [which just happens to parallel a church-like organization]." Explained further:
Lyra Belaqua, living in Oxford's Jordan College, is not but a young girl living among scholars. Her world may seem diverse, from physical embodiments of souls that take the shape of an animal, but similar with people around you to become friends and enemies. She is thrown into a perilous adventure when she overhears a conversation of an extraordinary microscopic particle, dust. This particle is said to unite different worlds, and is feared by many who want to destroy it forever. As Lyra is flung into the middle of this horrible struggle, she meets wondrous creatures both big and small, and villains who are not what they seem. Gobblers, that kidnap children, will turn out in the most unexpected places. And a magical compass of gold that will answer any question if one is skilled enough to read it. Lyra's adventure continues throughout these three books, and the first is about to be told [via "The Golden Compass"].
What lies beneath
The problems with the movie lies not in imagination or ingenuity, but in authorship and analogy.
I strongly urge everyone to read the Focus on the Family review of "The Golden Compass." Suffice it for me to highlight these few points from it.
Though Philip Pullman looks with disdain upon the works of C.S. Lewis saying, "I hate the 'Narnia' books, and I hate them with a deep and bitter passion":
There [is]no shortage of parallels between "His Dark Materials" and C.S. Lewis' "Chronicles of Narnia" series. Lyra instead of Lucy. A wardrobe. Alternate worlds. Talking animals. Cosmic consequences linked to a final battle. Oh, and witches – this time on the side of so-called good rather than evil.
As to whether or not a real Creator is responsible for everything, however, another character says simply, "There may have been a creator, or there may not: We don't know."
"The Christian religion is a very powerful and convincing mistake, that's all," says an influential character named Mary Malone, who then goes on to relate her own "testimony" of why she abandoned her calling as a nun.
Other messages woven into this story exalt witchcraft, evolution, divination, homosexuality and premarital sex. Accompanying them are smoking, drinking, occasional mild profanity and moments of visceral violence.
[In the end] …"God" gets overthrown and the "fall" becomes the source of humankind's redemption, not failure.
Philip Pullman additionally states about his own belief and work:
"… if there is a God, and he is as the Christians describe him, then he deserves to be put down and rebelled against."
"I wanted to reach everyone," he says, "and the best way I could hope to do that was to write for children."
"My books are about killing God."
No surprise that Pullman has been called "the most dangerous author in Britain."
Children casualties in Christmas culture wars
"The Golden Compass" is more than enough proof to demonstrate the Christmas culture wars are alive and well. We've drifted so far way from the innocence of Christmas movies like Jimmy Stewart's "It's a Wonderful Life." We've shifted from celebrating a savior to crying out for more secularism.
I respect artistic ability and one's right to freedom of speech, religion and creativity, but that does not mean I or millions of others have to agree with or tolerate it. It is also my American right to say, "My name is Chuck Norris, and I disapprove of this movie." And it's also others' rights to not frequent a theater showing it.
I even urge others to join the American Family Association to protect children from inappropriate programming on television by assuring a full Senate vote of the Protecting Children from Indecent Programming Act (S.1780) before they adjourn for Christmas break.
There are plenty of other brighter and more joyous Christmas movies (past and present) than Philip Puller's "Dark Materials" to captivate our children's hearts. With our culture already walking in wayward ways of Christmas, I don't believe any young mind needs to fill his or her yuletide with any additional religious antagonism and resistance. Shouldn't we be encouraging the opposite?
I have a better, more positive idea for a movie. It starts with an angel declaring,
Do not be afraid; for behold, I bring you good news of a great joy which shall be for all the people; for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.
Now here is the Focus on the Family "Plugged-in Online" article
You've probably heard of the new movie "The Golden Compass" coming out, yes? Well, I thought it important to post some things here for you to read about it. The book (one in a trilogy) that the movie in based on was written by an atheist and is in essence about "Killing God"
This is by Chuck Norris (Yeah, that one.)
'The Golden Compass' goes south – way south
Posted: December 3, 20071:00 a.m. Eastern
Last weekend we released a new video on YouTube giving the reasons why former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee is "Chuck Norris approved" for president.
This upcoming weekend I'm giving the worldwide release (Dec. 7) of the children's movie, "The Golden Compass," a definite "Chuck Norris disapproval."
I normally don't critique others' movies, but this one not only warrants critiquing but condemning. The reason is it will very subtly push agnosticism, atheism, secularism and anti-Christian thoughts upon youthful minds and hearts.
There is hot debate right now about this movie all over the Internet. And liberal news agencies and publications are waging war to assure its global proliferation, viewing and success.
Is this for real?
When I first heard about the movie via e-mail, I thought it was another Internet-perpetuated urban legend. I was shocked to discover it was real, and the books upon which it is based have already gained some award-winning acclaim. (They are a trilogy from Philip Pullman called "His Dark Materials.")
On the surface, "The Golden Compass" comes across as another fantasy-filled movie like "Harry Potter" or "Chronicles of Narnia." What lies beneath, however, is a tale spun with intention of promoting antagonism against the church and Christian belief.
The surface story
The story is fairly simple: "In a parallel universe, young [12-year old] Lyra Belacqua journeys to the far North to save her best friend and other kidnapped children from terrible experiments by a mysterious organization [which just happens to parallel a church-like organization]." Explained further:
Lyra Belaqua, living in Oxford's Jordan College, is not but a young girl living among scholars. Her world may seem diverse, from physical embodiments of souls that take the shape of an animal, but similar with people around you to become friends and enemies. She is thrown into a perilous adventure when she overhears a conversation of an extraordinary microscopic particle, dust. This particle is said to unite different worlds, and is feared by many who want to destroy it forever. As Lyra is flung into the middle of this horrible struggle, she meets wondrous creatures both big and small, and villains who are not what they seem. Gobblers, that kidnap children, will turn out in the most unexpected places. And a magical compass of gold that will answer any question if one is skilled enough to read it. Lyra's adventure continues throughout these three books, and the first is about to be told [via "The Golden Compass"].
What lies beneath
The problems with the movie lies not in imagination or ingenuity, but in authorship and analogy.
I strongly urge everyone to read the Focus on the Family review of "The Golden Compass." Suffice it for me to highlight these few points from it.
Though Philip Pullman looks with disdain upon the works of C.S. Lewis saying, "I hate the 'Narnia' books, and I hate them with a deep and bitter passion":
There [is]no shortage of parallels between "His Dark Materials" and C.S. Lewis' "Chronicles of Narnia" series. Lyra instead of Lucy. A wardrobe. Alternate worlds. Talking animals. Cosmic consequences linked to a final battle. Oh, and witches – this time on the side of so-called good rather than evil.
As to whether or not a real Creator is responsible for everything, however, another character says simply, "There may have been a creator, or there may not: We don't know."
"The Christian religion is a very powerful and convincing mistake, that's all," says an influential character named Mary Malone, who then goes on to relate her own "testimony" of why she abandoned her calling as a nun.
Other messages woven into this story exalt witchcraft, evolution, divination, homosexuality and premarital sex. Accompanying them are smoking, drinking, occasional mild profanity and moments of visceral violence.
[In the end] …"God" gets overthrown and the "fall" becomes the source of humankind's redemption, not failure.
Philip Pullman additionally states about his own belief and work:
"… if there is a God, and he is as the Christians describe him, then he deserves to be put down and rebelled against."
"I wanted to reach everyone," he says, "and the best way I could hope to do that was to write for children."
"My books are about killing God."
No surprise that Pullman has been called "the most dangerous author in Britain."
Children casualties in Christmas culture wars
"The Golden Compass" is more than enough proof to demonstrate the Christmas culture wars are alive and well. We've drifted so far way from the innocence of Christmas movies like Jimmy Stewart's "It's a Wonderful Life." We've shifted from celebrating a savior to crying out for more secularism.
I respect artistic ability and one's right to freedom of speech, religion and creativity, but that does not mean I or millions of others have to agree with or tolerate it. It is also my American right to say, "My name is Chuck Norris, and I disapprove of this movie." And it's also others' rights to not frequent a theater showing it.
I even urge others to join the American Family Association to protect children from inappropriate programming on television by assuring a full Senate vote of the Protecting Children from Indecent Programming Act (S.1780) before they adjourn for Christmas break.
There are plenty of other brighter and more joyous Christmas movies (past and present) than Philip Puller's "Dark Materials" to captivate our children's hearts. With our culture already walking in wayward ways of Christmas, I don't believe any young mind needs to fill his or her yuletide with any additional religious antagonism and resistance. Shouldn't we be encouraging the opposite?
I have a better, more positive idea for a movie. It starts with an angel declaring,
Do not be afraid; for behold, I bring you good news of a great joy which shall be for all the people; for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.
Now here is the Focus on the Family "Plugged-in Online" article
Sympathy for the Devil
plugged-inonline.com
A gargantuan polar bear bounds through snow dunes. A well-coifed gentleman whispers to the snow leopard at his side. A golden-hued beauty gives her ferocious monkey a furtive glance. And a young girl traces her fingers over symbols on a device vaguely reminiscent of ... a compass.
If you've been to the movies lately (or watched much TV), these images from the Dec. 7 film The Golden Compass (starring Nicole Kidman and Daniel Craig) may have caught your attention ... and perhaps even whetted your appetite for fantasy and adventure.
Which is, of course, exactly what New Line Cinema is hoping.
To stoke the fires of imagination further, the studio's early promotional material went so far as to equate this adaptation of author Philip Pullman's work with The Lord of the Rings. "In 2001, New Line Cinema opened the door to Middle-earth," says one trailer, "This December, they take you on another epic journey." It's a safe bet, however, that J.R.R. Tolkien wouldn't be amused by the comparison of his story to that of Pullman (who, coincidentally, also hails from Oxford).
The 1995 book The Golden Compass is the entry point to Pullman's His Dark Materials trilogy—a series of fantasy novels aimed at children that loosely draws inspiration from John Milton's epic poem Paradise Lost. This time around, however, "God" gets overthrown and the "Fall" becomes the source of humankind's redemption, not failure.
These three books, along with at least one (and presumably two more) movies, constitute British agnostic Philip Pullman's deliberate attempt to foist his viciously anti-God beliefs upon his audience.
A Different Kind of Wardrobe
The Golden Compass begins with a precocious 12-year-old girl named Lyra clambering into a wardrobe to avoid detection. What she sees and overhears through its doors launches her into a universe-altering adventure. (Sound familiar?) In the room outside, her uncle, an iconoclastic explorer named Lord Asriel, begins to describe a mysterious substance called Dust to a group of scholars. ...
Once she reemerges, the drama quickly starts to pile up: Lyra is given a truth-telling device called an alethiometer (the golden compass) and told to keep it secret; she begins to hear rumors of children disappearing without a trace; and she's whisked into the care of a glamorous but ruthless agent of the church named Mrs. Coulter. Lyra soon discovers that the church is also desperate to learn about Dust—a substance they believe is somehow connected to original sin—and that Mrs. Coulter is spearheading chilling experiments on children in her pursuit of "truth." Specifically, she's separating children from their dæmons (pronounced demon), animal spirits that physically embody each person's soul and accompany them throughout life.
As The Golden Compass draws to a close, the forces of good (represented by the church-rejecting Lord Asriel) have begun to array themselves against the forces of tyranny and wickedness (represented by Mrs. Coulter and churchmen who blend the worst of, say, the Spanish Inquisition and Adolf Hiter's dreaded SS). The battle will span not only Lyra's world, but many other alternate worlds. In Vol. 2, The Subtle Knife, Lyra meets 12-year-old Will, who comes into possession of a potent blade with the power to slice portals between those worlds. The Amber Spyglass concludes the series, with angels, armored bears, witches, a shaman, a lapsed nun-turned-physicist and other fantastical creatures marshalling their resources against the hated Authority—the "god" whose reign they can tolerate no longer—even as the mystery of Dust is finally resolved.
The Anti-Lewis
There are no shortage of parallels between His Dark Materials and C.S. Lewis' Chronicles of Narnia series. Lyra instead of Lucy. A wardrobe. Alternate worlds. Talking animals. Cosmic consequences linked to a final battle. Oh, and witches—this time on the side of so-called good rather than evil.
But beyond those superficial similarities, Pullman represents the polar opposite of Lewis. Pullman has repeatedly—and with apparent glee—lashed out at both Lewis and the faith he represents. "I hate the Narnia books, and I hate them with a deep and bitter passion," he told one interviewer, "with their view of childhood as a golden age from which sexuality and adulthood are a falling-away."
Such venom isn't the exception when it comes to Pullman's stance on all things Christian. He told the U.K.'s Daily Telegraph, "Atheism suggests a degree of certainty that I'm not quite willing to accede. I suppose technically, you'd have to put me down as an agnostic. But if there is a God, and he is as the Christians describe him, then he deserves to be put down and rebelled against. As you look back over the history of the Christian church, it's a record of terrible infamy and cruelty and persecution and tyranny. How they have the bloody nerve to go on Thought for the Day and tell us all to be good when, given the slightest chance, they'd be hanging the rest of us and flogging the homosexuals and persecuting the witches."
Given such ferocious antipathy for Christianity, it's only a matter of time before those beliefs sneak into heavy-handed sermonettes, delivered by the story's protagonists, such as this one from a witch: "There are churches there, believe me, that cut their children too, as the people of Bolvangar did—not in the same way, but just as horribly. They cut their sexual organs, yes, both boys and girls; they cut them with knives so that they shan't feel. That is what the church does, and every church is the same: control, destroy, obliterate every good feeling." Without exception, Pullman characterizes churches and anyone connected to them as agents of wickedness, oppression, torture, murder and malevolence.
A Tale of Two Insights
Still, Pullman wants his readers to believe he's more interested in telling a good story (and his is engaging at points) than delivering a particular message. On his personal Web site, he writes, "The meaning of a story emerges in the meeting between the words on the page and thoughts in the reader's mind. So when people ask me what I meant by this story, or what was the message I was trying to convey in that one, I have to explain that I'm not going to explain. Anyway, I'm not in the message business; I'm in the 'Once upon a time' business."
Don't believe him.
Not the least because Pullman contradicts himself when he talks about his understanding of how stories naturally influence people's beliefs. "All stories teach," he's said, "whether the storyteller intends them to or not. They teach the world we create. They teach the morality we live by. They teach it much more effectively than moral precepts and instructions. ... We don't need lists of rights and wrongs, tables of do's and don'ts: We need books, time and silence. 'Thou shalt not' is soon forgotten."
That is a more honest and insightful statement than the first one.
Therefore, it's a fair question for those curious about this story to ask what it is teaching. At the most basic level, His Dark Materials is an attempted refutation of the Christian faith: "The Christian religion is a very powerful and convincing mistake, that's all," says an influential character named Mary Malone, who then goes on to relate her own "testimony" of why she abandoned her calling as a nun.
Other messages woven into this story exalt witchcraft, evolution, divination, homosexuality and premarital sex. Accompanying them are smoking, drinking, occasional mild profanity and moments of visceral violence.
That Pullman's message is blasphemous and heretical goes without saying. What's more diabolical—a word carrying with it an original Greek meaning that literally means to separate into two pieces—is the fact that he's aimed his well-written tale and its messages directly at children. "I wanted to reach everyone," he says, "and the best way I could hope to do that was to write for children." Pullman's strategy for inculcating his beliefs involves planting these bad seeds in the minds of those who may not have the discernment to understand what he's doing.
Beliefnet's Rod Dreher writes that that's exactly why he intends to protect his children from Pullman's poisonous influence. "One expects that religious parents will keep their children away from the [Golden Compass] film. 'But why?' the question arises from liberals. 'What are you afraid of?' My children losing God, especially before they have a firm hold on Him, that's what. At some point they will question the existence of God. I did. It's normal to do so. I want more than anything else I want for my children, even their own happiness in this life, for them to believe in God, who is their salvation. If you believe in God, and that the loss of God is the worst thing that can happen to a person, then you would sooner give your child a rattlesnake to play with than expose him or her at an early age to the work of a man who openly says he wishes to destroy God in the minds of his audience."
Trying to Kill God
Pullman has said unambiguously, "My books are about killing God." But despite a great deal of publicity on this subject, the series never addresses the issue of God's existence with any real certainty. There is a character who masquerades as God, known as the Authority. But we discover he was simply the first being to evolve—and there's definitely a heavy emphasis on evolution in this story—out of Dust into conscious existence.
As to whether or not a real Creator is responsible for everything, however, another character says simply, "There may have been a creator, or there may not: We don't know." Ultimately, then, the story remains agnostic about God's existence. And with regard to death and the afterlife, Pullman first imagines a dark underworld where all the dead go, regardless of their actions or beliefs. The dead are then released by Lyra, and their molecules are dispersed throughout the world.
Pullman tries desperately to convince us that this vision of annihilation after death is a hopeful one. One of the dead contemplating this fate says, "This child has come offering us a way out, and I'm going to follow her. Even if it means oblivion, friends, I'll welcome it, because it won't be nothing. We'll be alive again in thousands of blades of grass and a million leaves; we'll be falling in the raindrops and blowing in the fresh breeze; we'll be glittering in the dew under the stars and the moon out there in the physical world, which is our true home and always was."
If that doesn't sound much like happily ever after, that's because, well, it isn't. In the final analysis, Pullman has nothing of substance to offer when it comes to concocting an alternative to the Christian faith he detests so venomously. Which is why, perhaps, flowery-but-empty passages and promises like the one above seem to echo those of a well-known serpent.
And lest that comparison sound too harsh, the author himself seems quite comfortable with the association. "[English poet William] Blake said that Milton was a true poet and of the Devil's party without knowing it," Pullman has said.
"I am of the Devil's party and know it."
Billye's back!
Hey folks,
Billye Brim just posted a new weblog about her latest trip to Israel and commentary on the Annapolis Summit Meeting..
Heres the link....
http://www.billyebrim.org/node/1767
Good stuff!
John
Billye Brim just posted a new weblog about her latest trip to Israel and commentary on the Annapolis Summit Meeting..
Heres the link....
http://www.billyebrim.org/node/1767
Good stuff!
John
Friday, November 30, 2007
The Religion of Peace?!?!?!
Now this is interesting.
Who was it that once said that Islam was the "Religion of Peace?"
You may have already heard this story.......
A British school teacher in Sudan was convicted of allowing one of her students to name his teddy bear "Muhammad." Originally she was supposed to get 40 lashes but instead was sentenced to 15 days in prison and then deported.
Pray, Pray, Pray, folks! This is obscene.
Now, what I find interesting is that this case has gotten the attention of a number of
LEFT-WING groups that perhaps are seeing the light that, shocker,
THESE GUYS ARE NOT OUR FRIENDS!
duh.
And remember, this is over a child's TEDDY BEAR!
Calls in Sudan for Execution of Briton
Nov 30 12:21 PM US/Eastern
By MOHAMED OSMAN Associated Press Writer
KHARTOUM, Sudan (AP) - Thousands of Sudanese, many armed with clubs and knives, rallied Friday in a central square and demanded the execution of a British teacher convicted of insulting Islam for allowing her students to name a teddy bear "Muhammad."
In response to the demonstration, teacher Gillian Gibbons was moved from the women's prison near Khartoum to a secret location for her safety, her lawyer said.
The protesters streamed out of mosques after Friday sermons, as pickup trucks with loudspeakers blared messages against Gibbons, who was sentenced Thursday to 15 days in prison and deportation. She avoided the more serious punishment of 40 lashes.
They massed in central Martyrs Square outside the presidential palace, where hundreds of riot police were deployed. They did not try to stop the rally, which lasted about an hour.
"Shame, shame on the U.K.," protesters chanted.
They called for Gibbons' execution, saying, "No tolerance: Execution," and "Kill her, kill her by firing squad."
Gibbons' chief lawyer, Kamal al-Gizouli, said she was moved from the prison for her safety for the final nine days of her sentence.
"They moved this lady from the prison department to put her in other hands and in other places to cover her and wait until she completes her imprisonment period," he said, adding that she was in good health.
"They want, by hook or by crook, to complete these nine days without any difficulties, which would have an impact on their foreign relationship," he said.
Several hundred protesters, not openly carrying weapons, marched from the square to Unity High School, about a mile away, where Gibbons worked. They chanted slogans outside the school, which is closed and under heavy security, then headed toward the nearby British Embassy. They were stopped by security forces two blocks away from the embassy.
The protest arose despite vows by Sudanese security officials the day before, during Gibbons' trial, that threatened demonstrations after Friday prayers would not take place. Some of the protesters carried green banners with the name of the Society for Support of the Prophet Muhammad, a previously unknown group.
Many protesters carried clubs, knives and axes—but not automatic weapons, which some have brandished at past government-condoned demonstrations. That suggested Friday's rally was not organized by the government.
A Muslim cleric at Khartoum's main Martyrs Mosque denounced Gibbons during one sermon, saying she intentionally insulted Islam. He did not call for protests, however.
"Imprisoning this lady does not satisfy the thirst of Muslims in Sudan. But we welcome imprisonment and expulsion," the cleric, Abdul- Jalil Nazeer al-Karouri, a well-known hard-liner, told worshippers.
"This an arrogant woman who came to our country, cashing her salary in dollars, teaching our children hatred of our Prophet Muhammad," he said.
Britain, meanwhile, pursued diplomatic moves to free Gibbons. Prime Minister Gordon Brown spoke with a member of her family to convey his regret, his spokeswoman said.
"He set out his concern and the fact that we were doing all we could to secure her release," spokeswoman Emily Hands told reporters.
Most Britons expressed shock at the verdict by a court in Khartoum, alongside hope it would not raise tensions between Muslims and non- Muslims in Britain.
"One of the good things is the U.K. Muslims who've condemned the charge as completely out of proportion," said Paul Wishart, 37, a student in London.
"In the past, people have been a bit upset when different atrocities have happened and there hasn't been much voice in the U.K. Islamic population, whereas with this, they've quickly condemned it."
Muhammad Abdul Bari, secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Britain, accused the Sudanese authorities of "gross overreaction."
"This case should have required only simple common sense to resolve. It is unfortunate that the Sudanese authorities were found wanting in this most basic of qualities," he said.
The Muslim Public Affairs Committee, a political advocacy group, said the prosecution was "abominable and defies common sense."
The Federation of Student Islamic Societies, which represents 90,000 Muslim students in Britain and Ireland, called on Sudan's government to free Gibbons, saying she had not meant to cause offense.
"We are deeply concerned that the verdict to jail a schoolteacher due to what's likely to be an innocent mistake is gravely disproportionate," said the group's president, Ali Alhadithi.
The Ramadhan Foundation, a Muslim youth organization, said Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir should pardon the teacher.
"The Ramadhan Foundation is disappointed and horrified by the conviction of Gillian Gibbons in Sudan," said spokesman Mohammed Shafiq.
Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, spiritual leader of the world's 77 million Anglicans, said Gibbons' prosecution and conviction was "an absurdly disproportionate response to what is at worst a cultural faux pas."
Foreign Secretary David Miliband summoned the Sudanese ambassador late Thursday to express Britain's disappointment with the verdict. The Foreign Office said Britain would continue diplomatic efforts to achieve "a swift resolution" to the crisis.
Gibbons was arrested Sunday after another staff member at the school complained that she had allowed her 7-year-old students to name a teddy bear Muhammad. Giving the name of the Muslim prophet to an animal or a toy could be considered insulting.
The case put Sudan's government in an embarrassing position—facing the anger of Britain on one side and potential trouble from powerful Islamic hard-liners on the other. Many saw the 15-day sentence as an attempt to appease both sides.
In The Times, columnist Bronwen Maddox said the verdict was "something of a fudge ... designed to give a nod to British reproof but also to appease the street."
Britain's response—applying diplomatic pressure while extolling ties with Sudan and affirming respect for Islam—had produced mixed results, British commentators concluded.
In an editorial, The Daily Telegraph said Miliband "has tiptoed around the case, avoiding a threat to cut aid and asserting that respect for Islam runs deep in Britain. Given that much of the government's financial support goes to the wretched refugees in Darfur and neighboring Chad, Mr. Miliband's caution is understandable."
Now, however, the newspaper said, Britain should recall its ambassador in Khartoum and impose sanctions on the Sudanese regime.
Wow, some common sense finally from some of these pro-islam groups.
I guess it's good that child didn't want to name a stuffed "Piglet" doll.
Imagine those kind of riots from these "peaceful people."
Yikes.
But seriously, this is a sign of the times, folks. The enemy's time is short and I for one am so glad I read the end of the Book.
We win and soon and VERY soon, "Muhammad" will be nothing more than a fleeting memory.
Amen.
Who was it that once said that Islam was the "Religion of Peace?"
You may have already heard this story.......
A British school teacher in Sudan was convicted of allowing one of her students to name his teddy bear "Muhammad." Originally she was supposed to get 40 lashes but instead was sentenced to 15 days in prison and then deported.
Pray, Pray, Pray, folks! This is obscene.
Now, what I find interesting is that this case has gotten the attention of a number of
LEFT-WING groups that perhaps are seeing the light that, shocker,
THESE GUYS ARE NOT OUR FRIENDS!
duh.
And remember, this is over a child's TEDDY BEAR!
Calls in Sudan for Execution of Briton
Nov 30 12:21 PM US/Eastern
By MOHAMED OSMAN Associated Press Writer
KHARTOUM, Sudan (AP) - Thousands of Sudanese, many armed with clubs and knives, rallied Friday in a central square and demanded the execution of a British teacher convicted of insulting Islam for allowing her students to name a teddy bear "Muhammad."
In response to the demonstration, teacher Gillian Gibbons was moved from the women's prison near Khartoum to a secret location for her safety, her lawyer said.
The protesters streamed out of mosques after Friday sermons, as pickup trucks with loudspeakers blared messages against Gibbons, who was sentenced Thursday to 15 days in prison and deportation. She avoided the more serious punishment of 40 lashes.
They massed in central Martyrs Square outside the presidential palace, where hundreds of riot police were deployed. They did not try to stop the rally, which lasted about an hour.
"Shame, shame on the U.K.," protesters chanted.
They called for Gibbons' execution, saying, "No tolerance: Execution," and "Kill her, kill her by firing squad."
Gibbons' chief lawyer, Kamal al-Gizouli, said she was moved from the prison for her safety for the final nine days of her sentence.
"They moved this lady from the prison department to put her in other hands and in other places to cover her and wait until she completes her imprisonment period," he said, adding that she was in good health.
"They want, by hook or by crook, to complete these nine days without any difficulties, which would have an impact on their foreign relationship," he said.
Several hundred protesters, not openly carrying weapons, marched from the square to Unity High School, about a mile away, where Gibbons worked. They chanted slogans outside the school, which is closed and under heavy security, then headed toward the nearby British Embassy. They were stopped by security forces two blocks away from the embassy.
The protest arose despite vows by Sudanese security officials the day before, during Gibbons' trial, that threatened demonstrations after Friday prayers would not take place. Some of the protesters carried green banners with the name of the Society for Support of the Prophet Muhammad, a previously unknown group.
Many protesters carried clubs, knives and axes—but not automatic weapons, which some have brandished at past government-condoned demonstrations. That suggested Friday's rally was not organized by the government.
A Muslim cleric at Khartoum's main Martyrs Mosque denounced Gibbons during one sermon, saying she intentionally insulted Islam. He did not call for protests, however.
"Imprisoning this lady does not satisfy the thirst of Muslims in Sudan. But we welcome imprisonment and expulsion," the cleric, Abdul- Jalil Nazeer al-Karouri, a well-known hard-liner, told worshippers.
"This an arrogant woman who came to our country, cashing her salary in dollars, teaching our children hatred of our Prophet Muhammad," he said.
Britain, meanwhile, pursued diplomatic moves to free Gibbons. Prime Minister Gordon Brown spoke with a member of her family to convey his regret, his spokeswoman said.
"He set out his concern and the fact that we were doing all we could to secure her release," spokeswoman Emily Hands told reporters.
Most Britons expressed shock at the verdict by a court in Khartoum, alongside hope it would not raise tensions between Muslims and non- Muslims in Britain.
"One of the good things is the U.K. Muslims who've condemned the charge as completely out of proportion," said Paul Wishart, 37, a student in London.
"In the past, people have been a bit upset when different atrocities have happened and there hasn't been much voice in the U.K. Islamic population, whereas with this, they've quickly condemned it."
Muhammad Abdul Bari, secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Britain, accused the Sudanese authorities of "gross overreaction."
"This case should have required only simple common sense to resolve. It is unfortunate that the Sudanese authorities were found wanting in this most basic of qualities," he said.
The Muslim Public Affairs Committee, a political advocacy group, said the prosecution was "abominable and defies common sense."
The Federation of Student Islamic Societies, which represents 90,000 Muslim students in Britain and Ireland, called on Sudan's government to free Gibbons, saying she had not meant to cause offense.
"We are deeply concerned that the verdict to jail a schoolteacher due to what's likely to be an innocent mistake is gravely disproportionate," said the group's president, Ali Alhadithi.
The Ramadhan Foundation, a Muslim youth organization, said Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir should pardon the teacher.
"The Ramadhan Foundation is disappointed and horrified by the conviction of Gillian Gibbons in Sudan," said spokesman Mohammed Shafiq.
Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, spiritual leader of the world's 77 million Anglicans, said Gibbons' prosecution and conviction was "an absurdly disproportionate response to what is at worst a cultural faux pas."
Foreign Secretary David Miliband summoned the Sudanese ambassador late Thursday to express Britain's disappointment with the verdict. The Foreign Office said Britain would continue diplomatic efforts to achieve "a swift resolution" to the crisis.
Gibbons was arrested Sunday after another staff member at the school complained that she had allowed her 7-year-old students to name a teddy bear Muhammad. Giving the name of the Muslim prophet to an animal or a toy could be considered insulting.
The case put Sudan's government in an embarrassing position—facing the anger of Britain on one side and potential trouble from powerful Islamic hard-liners on the other. Many saw the 15-day sentence as an attempt to appease both sides.
In The Times, columnist Bronwen Maddox said the verdict was "something of a fudge ... designed to give a nod to British reproof but also to appease the street."
Britain's response—applying diplomatic pressure while extolling ties with Sudan and affirming respect for Islam—had produced mixed results, British commentators concluded.
In an editorial, The Daily Telegraph said Miliband "has tiptoed around the case, avoiding a threat to cut aid and asserting that respect for Islam runs deep in Britain. Given that much of the government's financial support goes to the wretched refugees in Darfur and neighboring Chad, Mr. Miliband's caution is understandable."
Now, however, the newspaper said, Britain should recall its ambassador in Khartoum and impose sanctions on the Sudanese regime.
Wow, some common sense finally from some of these pro-islam groups.
I guess it's good that child didn't want to name a stuffed "Piglet" doll.
Imagine those kind of riots from these "peaceful people."
Yikes.
But seriously, this is a sign of the times, folks. The enemy's time is short and I for one am so glad I read the end of the Book.
We win and soon and VERY soon, "Muhammad" will be nothing more than a fleeting memory.
Amen.
Monday, November 26, 2007
The Roadmap to Goat-hood
I am at an absolute loss as I read this but it must be posted..
From wnd.com
Palestinian state by '08, says Bush
Tells PA president in private meeting U.S. committed to Israeli withdrawal
Posted: November 26, 20075:00 p.m. Eastern
By Aaron Klein© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com
JERUSALEM – President Bush told Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas during a private meeting today the U.S. will ensure the Palestinians will have a state on the ground before Bush leaves office, a senior Palestinian negotiator told WND.
"Bush and the U.S. administration gave us a commitment there will be a Palestinian state before he leaves office, and not just an outline of a state on paper but contiguous territory on the ground," said the Palestinian negotiator, who spoke on condition his name be withheld because he was revealing the contents of a private meeting.
"Bush said he is committed to seeing an Israeli withdrawal from most of the West Bank," the negotiator said.
Bush met separately today with Abbas and Prime Minister Ehud Olmert ahead of tomorrow's U.S.-sponsored Annapolis summit at which the Israeli and Palestinian teams are slated to present a joint declaration widely expected to outline a Palestinian state in the West Bank, Gaza Strip and eastern sections of Jerusalem.
After holding private meetings with the Israeli and Palestinian leaders, Bush told reporters at a press conference he was "optimistic" tomorrow's summit would be successful.
"We want to help [Abbas]. We want there to be peace. We want the people in the Palestinian territories to have hope," said Bush after his meeting with the Palestinian leader.
Abbas later told a news conference he has "a great deal of hope that this conference will produce permanent status negotiations, expanded negotiations, over all permanent status issues that would lead to a peace agreement between Israel and the Palestinian people."
"This is a great initiative and we need [Bush's] continuing effort to achieve this objective," said Abbas.
In what has been described by some media outlets as a diplomatic coup for Bush, the governments of Syria, Saudi Arabia and dozens of other Arab states are sending senior representatives to tomorrow's summit.
WND reported yesterday that according to top diplomatic sources in Jerusalem, in exchange for Saudi Arabia attending the Annapolis conference, the Israeli government agreed to recognize the importance of a Saudi-sponsored "peace initiative" in which the Jewish state is called upon to evacuate the strategic Golan Heights, the entire West Bank and eastern sections of Jerusalem, including the Temple Mount and the Western Wall.
While Israel doesn't commit itself to the Saudi-backed Arab Peace Initiative's requirements, a clause in the current draft of the Israeli-Palestinian declaration slated for the Annapolis conference and obtained by WND reads: "We recognize the critical supporting role of Arab and Muslim states and the importance of the Arab Peace Initiative."
As well, Syria reportedly agreed to attend Annapolis after Damascus received American and Israeli commitments the Golan Heights would be put on the table at the Israeli-Palestinian conference.
The Golan Heights is strategic mountainous territory that looks down on Israeli population centers and twice was used by Syria to launch ground invasions into the Jewish state.
While Israel is not expected to commit itself to evacuating the Golan Heights at Annapolis, the mere mentioning of the strategic territory at the international summit could serve to put the issue back on the bargaining table.
Syria is in a military alliance with Iran and is accused by the U.S. of supporting the insurgency in Iraq and generating instability in Lebanon. Israel says Syria regularly ships Iranian rockets and weaponry to the Lebanese Hezbollah militia. The chiefs of the Hamas and Islamic Jihad Palestinian terror groups are based in Damascus. Syria is also accused by Israel of holding Israeli soldiers missing in action, including Brooklyn-born Zachary Baumel, who was captured by Syrian forces 23 years ago.
Syria was invited to the summit without any preconditions or pledges to cease its purported backing of terrorism or its alleged meddling in Lebanese affairs.
Lets, please pray for our leaders!
One of these days, I hope someone can explain to me how clearing God's people out of their land and homes so terrorists can move in is a good thing. It's not.
It's a road map to goat-hood.
From wnd.com
Palestinian state by '08, says Bush
Tells PA president in private meeting U.S. committed to Israeli withdrawal
Posted: November 26, 20075:00 p.m. Eastern
By Aaron Klein© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com
JERUSALEM – President Bush told Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas during a private meeting today the U.S. will ensure the Palestinians will have a state on the ground before Bush leaves office, a senior Palestinian negotiator told WND.
"Bush and the U.S. administration gave us a commitment there will be a Palestinian state before he leaves office, and not just an outline of a state on paper but contiguous territory on the ground," said the Palestinian negotiator, who spoke on condition his name be withheld because he was revealing the contents of a private meeting.
"Bush said he is committed to seeing an Israeli withdrawal from most of the West Bank," the negotiator said.
Bush met separately today with Abbas and Prime Minister Ehud Olmert ahead of tomorrow's U.S.-sponsored Annapolis summit at which the Israeli and Palestinian teams are slated to present a joint declaration widely expected to outline a Palestinian state in the West Bank, Gaza Strip and eastern sections of Jerusalem.
After holding private meetings with the Israeli and Palestinian leaders, Bush told reporters at a press conference he was "optimistic" tomorrow's summit would be successful.
"We want to help [Abbas]. We want there to be peace. We want the people in the Palestinian territories to have hope," said Bush after his meeting with the Palestinian leader.
Abbas later told a news conference he has "a great deal of hope that this conference will produce permanent status negotiations, expanded negotiations, over all permanent status issues that would lead to a peace agreement between Israel and the Palestinian people."
"This is a great initiative and we need [Bush's] continuing effort to achieve this objective," said Abbas.
In what has been described by some media outlets as a diplomatic coup for Bush, the governments of Syria, Saudi Arabia and dozens of other Arab states are sending senior representatives to tomorrow's summit.
WND reported yesterday that according to top diplomatic sources in Jerusalem, in exchange for Saudi Arabia attending the Annapolis conference, the Israeli government agreed to recognize the importance of a Saudi-sponsored "peace initiative" in which the Jewish state is called upon to evacuate the strategic Golan Heights, the entire West Bank and eastern sections of Jerusalem, including the Temple Mount and the Western Wall.
While Israel doesn't commit itself to the Saudi-backed Arab Peace Initiative's requirements, a clause in the current draft of the Israeli-Palestinian declaration slated for the Annapolis conference and obtained by WND reads: "We recognize the critical supporting role of Arab and Muslim states and the importance of the Arab Peace Initiative."
As well, Syria reportedly agreed to attend Annapolis after Damascus received American and Israeli commitments the Golan Heights would be put on the table at the Israeli-Palestinian conference.
The Golan Heights is strategic mountainous territory that looks down on Israeli population centers and twice was used by Syria to launch ground invasions into the Jewish state.
While Israel is not expected to commit itself to evacuating the Golan Heights at Annapolis, the mere mentioning of the strategic territory at the international summit could serve to put the issue back on the bargaining table.
Syria is in a military alliance with Iran and is accused by the U.S. of supporting the insurgency in Iraq and generating instability in Lebanon. Israel says Syria regularly ships Iranian rockets and weaponry to the Lebanese Hezbollah militia. The chiefs of the Hamas and Islamic Jihad Palestinian terror groups are based in Damascus. Syria is also accused by Israel of holding Israeli soldiers missing in action, including Brooklyn-born Zachary Baumel, who was captured by Syrian forces 23 years ago.
Syria was invited to the summit without any preconditions or pledges to cease its purported backing of terrorism or its alleged meddling in Lebanese affairs.
Lets, please pray for our leaders!
One of these days, I hope someone can explain to me how clearing God's people out of their land and homes so terrorists can move in is a good thing. It's not.
It's a road map to goat-hood.
Monday, November 19, 2007
Departure from Reason-land
Hey folks!
This is a little departure from my normal posts but I felt it should be read by all. It's an article by Michael Reagan, eldest son of President Ronald Reagan (and by far, the most intelligent).
It discusses the blatant attempts by the current leaders of congress to lose the war in Iraq when it's obvious, even to the most liberal media outlets, that things are getting better and the "Surge" is an absolute success. Its a real eye opener.
Read on.....
From Frontpagemag.com
Still Begging for Defeat
By Michael ReaganFrontPageMagazine.com Monday, November 19, 2007
It has been said that there are none so blind as those who will not see. The quote is attributed by some to Jesus (Matthew 13:13): “Therefore I speak to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand” That’s a perfect description of Rep. Nancy Pelosi and Sen. Harry Reid, both of whom disingenuously state that that there has been no sign of progress in Iraq and that we are losing the war there and must pull up stakes and run as fast as we can with our tails between our legs.
Just what kind of blinders and ear plugs are these people wearing? Don’t they realize that some of the most vehement foes of the war in Iraq such as The New York Times and the Washington Post are reporting that the surge is working and we are winning the war against al Qaeda and the other insurgents? According to the Associated Press: "Twilight brings traffic jams to the main shopping district of this once-affluent corner of Baghdad, and hundreds of people stroll past well-stocked vegetable stands, bakeries and butcher shops. To many in America, it seems little short of a miracle." Wrote the Washington Post: "The number of attacks against U.S. Soldiers has fallen to levels not seen since before the February 2006 bombing of a Shi'ite shrine in Samarra that touched off waves of sectarian killing...The death toll for American troops in October fell to 39, the lowest level since March 2006."
Finally, The New York Times, of all newspapers, noted: "American forces have routed Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, the Iraqi militant network, from every neighborhood in Baghdad, a top American general said today, allowing American troops involved in the 'surge' to depart as planned." Could it be that Pelosi and Reid can’t see the progress because they don’t want to see it? Or, even worse, are they committed to doing what they can to stop their country from winning the war in Iraq?
Senator Joe Lieberman thinks it’s the latter. Noting that since the Democrats won control of Congress last year "the top foreign policy priority of the Democratic Party... Has been to pull our troops out of Iraq, to abandon the democratically elected government there, and to hand a defeat to President Bush... Democrats have remained emotionally invested in a narrative of defeat and retreat in Iraq, reluctant to acknowledge the progress we are now achieving." As Sen. Lieberman showed, it is no longer possible to deny that the Democrat leadership wants the United States to suffer a humiliating defeat in Iraq.
That this would mean that if 3000-plus American soldiers and Marines who died fighting to defeat al Qaeda and their allies in Iraq have died in vain, it doesn’t seem to bother Pelosi and the Reid one little bit. Pelosi’s reaction to coalition success was to announce what The Washington Times rightly called “her newest legislative strategy to damage the war effort.” Her House Democrats will “try to enact a bill calling for immediately beginning to withdraw U.S. Troops from Iraq, with a goal of completing the pullout in one year,” according to the Times.
That this public waving the surrender flag would signal to the al Qaeda jihadists that there would be a date certain for what amounts to a surrender to a foes now losing bothered the Democrat House leader one little bit. If Madame Pelosi and the surrender monkeys now running the Democrat Party on Capitol Hill have their way, the jihadists in Iraq need only wait for the Democrats’ planned withdrawal to move in and take over Iraq.
They call this strategy, I call it treason.
Yikes.
This is a little departure from my normal posts but I felt it should be read by all. It's an article by Michael Reagan, eldest son of President Ronald Reagan (and by far, the most intelligent).
It discusses the blatant attempts by the current leaders of congress to lose the war in Iraq when it's obvious, even to the most liberal media outlets, that things are getting better and the "Surge" is an absolute success. Its a real eye opener.
Read on.....
From Frontpagemag.com
Still Begging for Defeat
By Michael ReaganFrontPageMagazine.com Monday, November 19, 2007
It has been said that there are none so blind as those who will not see. The quote is attributed by some to Jesus (Matthew 13:13): “Therefore I speak to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand” That’s a perfect description of Rep. Nancy Pelosi and Sen. Harry Reid, both of whom disingenuously state that that there has been no sign of progress in Iraq and that we are losing the war there and must pull up stakes and run as fast as we can with our tails between our legs.
Just what kind of blinders and ear plugs are these people wearing? Don’t they realize that some of the most vehement foes of the war in Iraq such as The New York Times and the Washington Post are reporting that the surge is working and we are winning the war against al Qaeda and the other insurgents? According to the Associated Press: "Twilight brings traffic jams to the main shopping district of this once-affluent corner of Baghdad, and hundreds of people stroll past well-stocked vegetable stands, bakeries and butcher shops. To many in America, it seems little short of a miracle." Wrote the Washington Post: "The number of attacks against U.S. Soldiers has fallen to levels not seen since before the February 2006 bombing of a Shi'ite shrine in Samarra that touched off waves of sectarian killing...The death toll for American troops in October fell to 39, the lowest level since March 2006."
Finally, The New York Times, of all newspapers, noted: "American forces have routed Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, the Iraqi militant network, from every neighborhood in Baghdad, a top American general said today, allowing American troops involved in the 'surge' to depart as planned." Could it be that Pelosi and Reid can’t see the progress because they don’t want to see it? Or, even worse, are they committed to doing what they can to stop their country from winning the war in Iraq?
Senator Joe Lieberman thinks it’s the latter. Noting that since the Democrats won control of Congress last year "the top foreign policy priority of the Democratic Party... Has been to pull our troops out of Iraq, to abandon the democratically elected government there, and to hand a defeat to President Bush... Democrats have remained emotionally invested in a narrative of defeat and retreat in Iraq, reluctant to acknowledge the progress we are now achieving." As Sen. Lieberman showed, it is no longer possible to deny that the Democrat leadership wants the United States to suffer a humiliating defeat in Iraq.
That this would mean that if 3000-plus American soldiers and Marines who died fighting to defeat al Qaeda and their allies in Iraq have died in vain, it doesn’t seem to bother Pelosi and the Reid one little bit. Pelosi’s reaction to coalition success was to announce what The Washington Times rightly called “her newest legislative strategy to damage the war effort.” Her House Democrats will “try to enact a bill calling for immediately beginning to withdraw U.S. Troops from Iraq, with a goal of completing the pullout in one year,” according to the Times.
That this public waving the surrender flag would signal to the al Qaeda jihadists that there would be a date certain for what amounts to a surrender to a foes now losing bothered the Democrat House leader one little bit. If Madame Pelosi and the surrender monkeys now running the Democrat Party on Capitol Hill have their way, the jihadists in Iraq need only wait for the Democrats’ planned withdrawal to move in and take over Iraq.
They call this strategy, I call it treason.
Yikes.
Sunday, November 18, 2007
Delusional
Here's the latest from Condi Rice before the Annapolis "Peace" conference. It frightens and frustrates me that this seems to be the thinking in our Government concerning Israel.
Posted on WND.com November 14, 07
Rice: Most Israelis want to give up West Bank But new poll shows vast majority oppose evacuating strategic territory
Posted: November 14, 200710:46 a.m. Eastern
By Aaron Klein© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com
Most Israelis support giving up the West Bank to create a Palestinian state alongside Israel, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice claimed yesterday in a speech to Jewish leaders.
But a new poll released today contradicted Rice's contention, finding the vast majority of Israelis oppose withdrawing from the West Bank, stating they fear the Palestinians will use the strategic territory to fire rockets into central Israel.
The West Bank borders Jerusalem and is within rocket range of Tel Aviv and Israel's international airport.
"I believe that most Israelis are ready to leave most of the – nearly all of the West Bank – just as they were ready to leave Gaza, for the sake of peace," said Rice addressing delegates in Nashville at the General Assembly of the United Jewish Communities, an annual meeting of top American Jewish leaders.
That statement in itself is nuts! Too bad she wasn't there when Jews expelled Jews from their houses kicking and screaming. Terrorists were moving in right behind them! Ready to leave?!?! Who has she been talking to, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad?
Now, get this!
"Just consider, most Israelis now believe that a responsible Palestinian state is in the national interest of Israel and that true security will require an end to the occupation that began in 1967," Rice stated.
WHAT?!? Fortunately, her foolish statements were followed by the facts coming straight from Israel. Thank God!
Her comments were followed by the release today of a poll finding 61 percent of the general Israeli public opposes a withdrawal from most of the West Bank and handing the strategic territory to the Palestinians.
If Israel indeed evacuated the West Bank, some 55 percent of Israelis believe Palestinians will use the territory to fire rockets into Jewish population centers, and 65 percent believe there is a high or very high chance Hamas would take control of the area, according to the new poll. Hamas leaders in recent days warned their terror group would take over the West Bank if Israel withdrew.
Some 77 percent of Israelis said Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas lacked the power to prevent attacks from the West Bank.
The new survey was sponsored by the Israel Policy Center for Promoting Parliamentary Democracy and Jewish Values in Israeli Public Life.
The same poll showed the majority of Israelis – some 55 percent – believe the Knesset should remove Prime Minister Ehud Olmert from office due to criminal investigations against him charging various degrees of financial and political corruption.
As well, 53 percent of Israelis said they believe the main reason Olmert was seeking an accord with the Palestinians was because he is concerned with his political future and not about Israel's national interests.
The survey and Rice's statements come in the lead up to a major U.S.-sponsored Israeli-Palestinian summit later this month in Annapolis, Md. Olmert is widely expected to outline a Palestinian state in most of the West Bank and sections of eastern Jerusalem at the summit.
Rice's January remarks at the time prompted some U.S. Jewish groups to demand an apology to victims of Hamas terror.
Delusional. Jesus, we plead the Blood!
Friday, September 14, 2007
Suicide.....
When Ariel Sharon gave away Gaza in 2005 under pressures from the world and especially from our (USA's) foot in the back, this was the terrorist reaction:
Arutz-Sheva.com reported: "Jubilant Terrorist Groups Celebrate Israeli Retreat. Terrorist groups are all celebrating the implementation of the Disengagement Plan, insisting that their terror attacks brought about the Israeli retreat and will bring about additional pullbacks.
…Islamic Jihad terrorist organization chief says Israel’s withdrawal from Gaza stems directly from Palestinian terrorism—and that more of the same can be expected all over Israel. “We will intensify the attacks even within the Green Line,” Shalah told Al Manar TV…He said, however, that the attacks would resume only, after Israel had completed destroying all the Jewish communities in Gaza and north Shomron. He said that terrorism is the only way to “liberate Palestinian land” from Israel.
At a rally in Gaza…another leading Islamic Jihad terrorist said, “The Israelis understand only force. Because of our force, Israel ran away from Lebanon, and because of our force we are succeeding in getting rid of Israel from the Gaza Strip. There is no room here for the State of Israel. We are continuing forward until our dream is fulfilled…Without the Kassams (rockets fired upon Gush Katif) Israel would not have thought of leaving.”
Hamas leader Khaled Meshai stated (as reported by Arutz Sheva Aug. 16, ’05), “Israel’s pullout from Gaza is the beginning of the end of the Zionist project in the region. It is a historic moment and a major turning point in the Israel-Arab conflict…the beginning of the end of Israel.”
The Palestinian Authority has adopted the slogan and plastered it on signs and tee-shirts, “Today—Gaza, Tomorrow—the West Bank and Jerusalem.”
Evidently the leadership in Israel feels this pull-out was so successful they are about to go it again!
Posted on Arutz-sheva.com (Israel National News):
PA: Israel Agrees to Destroy Jewish Towns, Starting in November
Here is link for a list of great Scriptures about the Judgement of the Nations and how we should treat Israel.
http://www.billyebrim.com/bbm/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&id=10&Itemid=96
Arutz-Sheva.com reported: "Jubilant Terrorist Groups Celebrate Israeli Retreat. Terrorist groups are all celebrating the implementation of the Disengagement Plan, insisting that their terror attacks brought about the Israeli retreat and will bring about additional pullbacks.
…Islamic Jihad terrorist organization chief says Israel’s withdrawal from Gaza stems directly from Palestinian terrorism—and that more of the same can be expected all over Israel. “We will intensify the attacks even within the Green Line,” Shalah told Al Manar TV…He said, however, that the attacks would resume only, after Israel had completed destroying all the Jewish communities in Gaza and north Shomron. He said that terrorism is the only way to “liberate Palestinian land” from Israel.
At a rally in Gaza…another leading Islamic Jihad terrorist said, “The Israelis understand only force. Because of our force, Israel ran away from Lebanon, and because of our force we are succeeding in getting rid of Israel from the Gaza Strip. There is no room here for the State of Israel. We are continuing forward until our dream is fulfilled…Without the Kassams (rockets fired upon Gush Katif) Israel would not have thought of leaving.”
Hamas leader Khaled Meshai stated (as reported by Arutz Sheva Aug. 16, ’05), “Israel’s pullout from Gaza is the beginning of the end of the Zionist project in the region. It is a historic moment and a major turning point in the Israel-Arab conflict…the beginning of the end of Israel.”
The Palestinian Authority has adopted the slogan and plastered it on signs and tee-shirts, “Today—Gaza, Tomorrow—the West Bank and Jerusalem.”
Evidently the leadership in Israel feels this pull-out was so successful they are about to go it again!
Posted on Arutz-sheva.com (Israel National News):
PA: Israel Agrees to Destroy Jewish Towns, Starting in November
by Hillel Fendel
The Palestinian Authority's Maan news agency has published a copy, in Hebrew, of PM Olmert's agreement to expel tens of thousands of Jews and replace them with a Palestinian state.The report states that Israel has agreed to begin destroying Jewish towns in Judea and Samaria immediately following the US-sponsored international summit this coming November.
The PA claims that the document's eight points represent the principles of agreement between Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Fatah leader Mahmoud Abbas, in anticipation of the upcoming Middle East summit.The document begins by stating that Israel and the PA are to immediately enter a process "that will lead to the formation of two states, Israel and Palestine, side by side," and are "to reach understandings of the type detailed below." The eight points upon which Olmert and Abbas undertake to agree are the following:
1. Israel will end the occupation of the West Bank within an agreed-upon time period. The retreat and the evacuation of the settlements will occur gradually and in several stages. Each area that is evacuated will be transferred to the Palestinian Authority, which will instill law and order there. The existence of a regime in Gaza that is willing to be part of the peace process will enable Israel to view Gaza and the West Bank as one political entity.
2. An unarmed Palestinian state will be established, whose permanent borders will be based on the pre-1967 borders. The precise border will reflect security, demographic and humanitarian needs. An exchange of territory will be enabled on a 1:1 basis, to preserve settlement blocs in Israeli hands and to guarantee Palestinian contiguity and economic development.
3. There will be two capitals in Jerusalem, that of Israel and that of Palestine, and they will be sovereign over the Jewish and Arab neighborhoods, respectively. The two municipalities will cooperate for the enhancement of the quality of life of all the residents.
4. Special arrangements will be emplaced to preserve free access to all the holy sites of the various religions. A special administration will be established to maintain the two nations' bonds with the holy sites in the Old City of Jerusalem.
5. Palestine will be recognized as the national home of the Palestinian nation, and Israel will be recognized as the national home of the Jewish nation.
6. A fair and agreed solution will be found for the problem of the Palestinian refugees, with consideration and recognition of the suffering that was caused to them, and with the understanding that the implementation of national self-definition will be the main aspect of the solution.
7. The two sides will declare their willingness to end the conflict and to act to increase public support for the agreement as much as possible. The two sides will act with all their force, together and separately, against any manifestation of violence and terrorism that is directed from the area of either state to the other.
8. The two sides see this agreement as a significant manifestation of the principles of the Arab League's peace initiative, and call upon the members of the League to take operative steps to bring about its full implementation. Similarly, the sides call upon the entities represented in the Quartet and international community to guarantee and help, in various ways, to promote and actualize this agreement.
The agreement ends with this paragraph:
A document based on principles of the above type must be reached before the international summit in November, must be presented during the summit, and must be anchored in international decisions after it. Immediately following the summit, parallel with the negotiations for a detailed agreement, Israel will begin withdrawing its forces and evacuating settlements from areas in the West Bank. Completion of the various stages of evacuation will be done parallel to the completion of the negotiations.
Clauses 3 and 4 indicate that Israel has agreed to give up the Temple Mount, Judaism's most sacred spot in the world, and allow an "administration" to determine when Jews would be allowed to visit or pray there.
Clauses 1 and 2 do not take into account the tremendous amount of Arab-held weaponry already present in Judea and Samaria, nor the anti-Israel violence emanating from Gaza that increased dramatically upon Israel's withdrawal in 2005.
Clause 6 leaves open the possibility that "Right of Return" refugees would be allowed to live in Israel.
Fortunately a sane voice cried out in the middle of this particular wilderness!
The immediate response of the Yesha Council (the body representing the Jewish communities in Judea and Samaria) was this: "Only a government that acts so totally wantonly would be able to suggest such an agreement, precisely on the day that dozens of its soldiers are wounded from a rocket fired from area we gave over to the Palestinians. The Yesha Council calls upon all those to whom Israel's security and welfare are of top priority to object to this calamitous process of Olmert. The Knesset Members must thwart this program, which means the division of Jerusalem, as well as Kassam rocket launchers to the outskirts of Kfar Saba and Ben Gurion International Airport."
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Did you know that even today (2 years later!) the people of the destroyed town of Gush Katif are still living in poverty? The Government had promised that money and reparation was in place and new places would be built for them. They are still waiting.
How sad for this government that it doesn't know about it's God-given, Blessed land and the absolute suicide course they have set for themselves. I pray someone, a real leader, that knows the Word and understands God steps in quickly!
How sad for us as a nation that we seem to be supporting this. I don't. I pray we wake up and wake up soon, lest we be counted among the goats! Not a good position for a nation.Here is link for a list of great Scriptures about the Judgement of the Nations and how we should treat Israel.
http://www.billyebrim.com/bbm/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&id=10&Itemid=96
Shalom Shalom!
(the Peace that comes from being Whole)
World Net Daily article......
This is a fantastic article from Joseph Farrah of WND.com. This is another great website for daily news without the world devil spin.
The article really shows how even Christian organizations can be deceived by the Palestine problem, the abominable so called "Road Map" to Peace" and the "Two-State Solution."
Read on...
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57619
Christianity Today? Or Politics Today?
Posted: September 14, 20071:00 a.m. Eastern
Christianity Today has determined "what it means to love Israel."
"What it means is slicing it up geographically and turning over most of the historically Jewish lands to Israel's most bitter enemies – people sworn to eradicate the tiny Jewish presence in the Middle East.
In an editorial this month, the magazine came out with both barrels blazing in favor of a "two-state solution" that would turn over most, if not all, of Judea and Samaria and surely half of Jerusalem to the Palestinian Authority terrorists who are still, to this day, sworn to Israel's annihilation.
Like lukewarm spiritual and political moderates, Christianity Today tries to chart a middle course between "replacement theology," that suggests the modern rebirth of Israel has no biblical or prophetic significance, and "dispensationalists," who believe Jews have a God-given birthright to a land never claimed by any other people during an 1,800-year diaspora.
The magazine cautions evangelicals to learn how "to bless Israel and love it."
"True love is sometimes tough love that builds on God's unconditional love," the editorial states. "Genesis 12:3 is often misused as a warm affirmation of anything done for the expansion of Israel's influence or borders. But genuine love asks not only about the extent of Israel's land, but also about its national character."
The hard facts are these: Israel has not "expanded" in 40 years, since 1967, when its survival was threatened by calls for war and extermination by its Arab neighbors. Among the lands captured in that Six-Day War were Judea and Samaria and Gaza, lands previously occupied by two Arab nations that refused to accept a United Nations partition in 1948.
None of these lands was ever part of a nation called "Palestine." There had never been international cries to create a "Palestinian state" before 1967. Again, no such people or nation had ever before been proposed. Most of the Arabs living in those areas – and living there today – emigrated from other Arab countries to be a part of the economic prosperity stimulated by the return of the Jews.
Christianity Today claims to love the Jews. I just wonder. Do the magazine's editors also love the Arab peoples of the region? If so, why would they relegate them to a life of tyranny and oppression under the leadership of Mahmoud Abbas or Hamas? Do either one of those options truly represent self-determination for those Arabs?
I speak as an Arab-American Christian whose grandparents fled the dhimmi life of the Muslim-dominated Arab world. Is Christianity Today aware of the systematic eradication of Christians taking place with the Palestinian Authority, the precursor to the Palestinian state the magazine covets?
How on earth can Christians justify the rape, murder and persecution of fellow Christians in the Holy Land in the name of "Palestinian nationalism"? It defies common sense. One needs to have his head deeply buried in the desert sand not to comprehend the consequences of what is being proposed.
Gaza has already been purged of all Jews. Those calling for a two-state solution weren't at all alarmed by the demands of the Palestinian Authority that all Jews must leave its territory as a prerequisite for "peace."
How can Christians of any stripe – evangelical dispensationalists, Catholics or even replacement theology proponents – accept and promote this kind of ethnic cleansing? Don't they understand it will not stop with Jews? Most Christians have already fled the Palestinian Authority territory with the knowledge they are next.
Christianity Today says it longs for "a solution that provides a secure Jewish homeland and self-determination and prosperity for Palestinians."
Before Israel unilaterally and unwisely ceded control of territories to the Palestinian Authority, the Arabs living in those lands experienced unprecedented prosperity and freedom – a kind known nowhere else in the Arab world.
Since those lands were taken over by the terrorists, corruption has become rampant. The infrastructure has broken down. Joblessness is rampant. And the fleeting freedoms inhabitants once experienced are no more.
What is it about history and reality Christianity Today just doesn't understand?"
Indeed. As a nation we need to stand up for Israel and repent from this devilish blindness that we have somehow allowed into our homes, businesses, lands and thoughts. Let's be a blessing to Israel so we can be blessed! Amen!
The article really shows how even Christian organizations can be deceived by the Palestine problem, the abominable so called "Road Map" to Peace" and the "Two-State Solution."
Read on...
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57619
Christianity Today? Or Politics Today?
Posted: September 14, 20071:00 a.m. Eastern
Christianity Today has determined "what it means to love Israel."
"What it means is slicing it up geographically and turning over most of the historically Jewish lands to Israel's most bitter enemies – people sworn to eradicate the tiny Jewish presence in the Middle East.
In an editorial this month, the magazine came out with both barrels blazing in favor of a "two-state solution" that would turn over most, if not all, of Judea and Samaria and surely half of Jerusalem to the Palestinian Authority terrorists who are still, to this day, sworn to Israel's annihilation.
Like lukewarm spiritual and political moderates, Christianity Today tries to chart a middle course between "replacement theology," that suggests the modern rebirth of Israel has no biblical or prophetic significance, and "dispensationalists," who believe Jews have a God-given birthright to a land never claimed by any other people during an 1,800-year diaspora.
The magazine cautions evangelicals to learn how "to bless Israel and love it."
"True love is sometimes tough love that builds on God's unconditional love," the editorial states. "Genesis 12:3 is often misused as a warm affirmation of anything done for the expansion of Israel's influence or borders. But genuine love asks not only about the extent of Israel's land, but also about its national character."
The hard facts are these: Israel has not "expanded" in 40 years, since 1967, when its survival was threatened by calls for war and extermination by its Arab neighbors. Among the lands captured in that Six-Day War were Judea and Samaria and Gaza, lands previously occupied by two Arab nations that refused to accept a United Nations partition in 1948.
None of these lands was ever part of a nation called "Palestine." There had never been international cries to create a "Palestinian state" before 1967. Again, no such people or nation had ever before been proposed. Most of the Arabs living in those areas – and living there today – emigrated from other Arab countries to be a part of the economic prosperity stimulated by the return of the Jews.
Christianity Today claims to love the Jews. I just wonder. Do the magazine's editors also love the Arab peoples of the region? If so, why would they relegate them to a life of tyranny and oppression under the leadership of Mahmoud Abbas or Hamas? Do either one of those options truly represent self-determination for those Arabs?
I speak as an Arab-American Christian whose grandparents fled the dhimmi life of the Muslim-dominated Arab world. Is Christianity Today aware of the systematic eradication of Christians taking place with the Palestinian Authority, the precursor to the Palestinian state the magazine covets?
How on earth can Christians justify the rape, murder and persecution of fellow Christians in the Holy Land in the name of "Palestinian nationalism"? It defies common sense. One needs to have his head deeply buried in the desert sand not to comprehend the consequences of what is being proposed.
Gaza has already been purged of all Jews. Those calling for a two-state solution weren't at all alarmed by the demands of the Palestinian Authority that all Jews must leave its territory as a prerequisite for "peace."
How can Christians of any stripe – evangelical dispensationalists, Catholics or even replacement theology proponents – accept and promote this kind of ethnic cleansing? Don't they understand it will not stop with Jews? Most Christians have already fled the Palestinian Authority territory with the knowledge they are next.
Christianity Today says it longs for "a solution that provides a secure Jewish homeland and self-determination and prosperity for Palestinians."
Before Israel unilaterally and unwisely ceded control of territories to the Palestinian Authority, the Arabs living in those lands experienced unprecedented prosperity and freedom – a kind known nowhere else in the Arab world.
Since those lands were taken over by the terrorists, corruption has become rampant. The infrastructure has broken down. Joblessness is rampant. And the fleeting freedoms inhabitants once experienced are no more.
What is it about history and reality Christianity Today just doesn't understand?"
Indeed. As a nation we need to stand up for Israel and repent from this devilish blindness that we have somehow allowed into our homes, businesses, lands and thoughts. Let's be a blessing to Israel so we can be blessed! Amen!
Wednesday, September 5, 2007
CUFI (Christians United for Israel)
Here is a wonderful organization that keeps you involved in being a supporter of Israel. Also, if you sign up, they also keep you up to date on the latest news without the world spin. Highly recommended.
http://www.cufi.org/
Here's a great article from the latest Newsletter by David Brog
A Present for the Start of the New School Year- September 4, 2007
Summer is over and it's back to school. Not only here but in Israel, this week started with mothers dressing their children in new school clothes, packing their lunches, and nervously dropping them off at school.
But in the southern Israeli town of Sderot, the mothers were nervous about more than whether their children will make friends or drink their milk. Sderot is well within range of the Kassam rockets that Hamas and Islamic Jihad fire into Israel from Gaza on an almost weekly basis. During the summer, many mothers had threatened to keep their children home at the start of school because of fears that school buildings are inadequately protected.
In Israel paranoia is, too often, simply foresight. A rocket fired from Gaza on Monday morning landed in the courtyard between a day care center and an elementary school. Both buildings were full at the time -- yesterday was not a holiday in Israel. Yet miraculously no one was seriously injured in the attack. According to Sderot's police chief, the rocket hit a tree in its path, quite possibly preventing it from having a more deadly impact.
The terrorist group Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for firing this and six other missiles at Sderot yesterday. On their website, Islamic Jihad boasted that these missiles were "A present for the start of the new school year."
The barbarity of this comment is hardly surprising, yet it somehow still stings. Clearly, the people who wrote this were not shocked to learn that their missiles hit a school. They were not calling for inquiries into how the missiles could have strayed so far from military targets. They were, on the contrary, quite pleased with themselves.
But of course, hitting schools and other non-military targets is exactly what happens when you fire rockets indiscriminately into population centers. This is also exactly what happens when you blow yourself up in cafes and on buses. Killing innocents is the whole point. Terrorists derive their name from the fact that their goal and purpose is to strike terror into the heart of the general public. And if causing terror is your aim, then there is no better target than babies and school children.
CNN and the like would have us believe there is a "cycle of violence" in the Middle East. They would equate terror attacks such as this with the response from Israel and America to terror -- which is to stop the terrorists from perpetrating such attacks. Let this attack and the sick claim of responsibility that followed it serve as yet another clear reminder of the wide chasm which separates the terrorists from those who seek to defend us from them.
There is no moral equivalence here. There is only moral revulsion.
Whew!
Mr. Brog is also the author of "Standing with Israel" .
Book description from Amazon.com as follows for those of you that might be interested!
- "Many people do not understand or know how to explain Christian Zionism. Some question why evangelicals should support Israel. Based on theological and historical research, David Brog makes persuasive appeals to Christians to embrace Israel and to Jews to overcome their fears of Christian Zionists.
Focusing on a subject that has been covered by various national media, including the Wall Street Journal, 60 Minutes, and Nightline, Standing With Israel goes beyond politics to: • Profile leading Christian Zionists and detail the views and motives that drive their politics. • Spotlight Jews who have been at the forefront of forming a budding alliance with Israel’s Christian allies. • Explain why so many American Jews are deeply uncomfortable with this outpouring of Christian support."
Good stuff!
God bless!
http://www.cufi.org/
Here's a great article from the latest Newsletter by David Brog
A Present for the Start of the New School Year- September 4, 2007
Summer is over and it's back to school. Not only here but in Israel, this week started with mothers dressing their children in new school clothes, packing their lunches, and nervously dropping them off at school.
But in the southern Israeli town of Sderot, the mothers were nervous about more than whether their children will make friends or drink their milk. Sderot is well within range of the Kassam rockets that Hamas and Islamic Jihad fire into Israel from Gaza on an almost weekly basis. During the summer, many mothers had threatened to keep their children home at the start of school because of fears that school buildings are inadequately protected.
In Israel paranoia is, too often, simply foresight. A rocket fired from Gaza on Monday morning landed in the courtyard between a day care center and an elementary school. Both buildings were full at the time -- yesterday was not a holiday in Israel. Yet miraculously no one was seriously injured in the attack. According to Sderot's police chief, the rocket hit a tree in its path, quite possibly preventing it from having a more deadly impact.
The terrorist group Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for firing this and six other missiles at Sderot yesterday. On their website, Islamic Jihad boasted that these missiles were "A present for the start of the new school year."
The barbarity of this comment is hardly surprising, yet it somehow still stings. Clearly, the people who wrote this were not shocked to learn that their missiles hit a school. They were not calling for inquiries into how the missiles could have strayed so far from military targets. They were, on the contrary, quite pleased with themselves.
But of course, hitting schools and other non-military targets is exactly what happens when you fire rockets indiscriminately into population centers. This is also exactly what happens when you blow yourself up in cafes and on buses. Killing innocents is the whole point. Terrorists derive their name from the fact that their goal and purpose is to strike terror into the heart of the general public. And if causing terror is your aim, then there is no better target than babies and school children.
CNN and the like would have us believe there is a "cycle of violence" in the Middle East. They would equate terror attacks such as this with the response from Israel and America to terror -- which is to stop the terrorists from perpetrating such attacks. Let this attack and the sick claim of responsibility that followed it serve as yet another clear reminder of the wide chasm which separates the terrorists from those who seek to defend us from them.
There is no moral equivalence here. There is only moral revulsion.
Whew!
Mr. Brog is also the author of "Standing with Israel" .
Book description from Amazon.com as follows for those of you that might be interested!
- "Many people do not understand or know how to explain Christian Zionism. Some question why evangelicals should support Israel. Based on theological and historical research, David Brog makes persuasive appeals to Christians to embrace Israel and to Jews to overcome their fears of Christian Zionists.
Focusing on a subject that has been covered by various national media, including the Wall Street Journal, 60 Minutes, and Nightline, Standing With Israel goes beyond politics to: • Profile leading Christian Zionists and detail the views and motives that drive their politics. • Spotlight Jews who have been at the forefront of forming a budding alliance with Israel’s Christian allies. • Explain why so many American Jews are deeply uncomfortable with this outpouring of Christian support."
Good stuff!
God bless!
Friday, August 31, 2007
Madness in the Land.
Good morning and God bless you all! Welcome to my first blog.
Lets get started.....
Well, it looks like Prime Minister Olmert is at it again.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/123549
Olmert Offers Judea, Samaria, Divides J'lem in Draft Accord
by Gil Ronen
"(IsraelNN.com) Israel's government has agreed, in writing, to hand over 6,250 square kilometers of land – the equivalent of its entire biblical and strategic heartland - to an Arab terror state. So reports Dr. Guy Bechor, a leading expert on Arab affairs, who also supplies some of the details of the negotiations.Bechor reports, based on "leaks from the Palestinian side," that Israel has, in the past few days, presented Palestinian Authority chairman Mahmoud Abbas at least one draft of an "agreement of principles."
The agreement calls for a state named Palestine to be established alongside Israel, and have a territory of 6,250 square kilometers: the equivalent of all of Judea, Samaria and Gaza.
"Palestine" will be demilitarized.
Most of the Jewish communities built in Judea and Samaria over the past 40 years are to demolished and their inhabitants expelled, according to the plan. The remaining communities are to be concentrated in small salients Most of the Jewish communities built in Judea and Samaria over the past 40 years are to demolished and their inhabitants expelled.for which the Arab state will be compensated with additional territory elsewhere in present-day Israel.
A passage of some sort will connect Gaza and Judea and Samaria. It will be under Jewish sovereignty and Palestinian administration.
Israel agrees to redivide Jerusalem. Arab neighborhoods will be under Arab sovereignty and Jewish ones under Jewish sovereignty. Mention is made of "religious areas," but further details are not known as of yet. Each side will recognize the other's spiritual needs.
The "refugee" question is not mentioned at all, and Bechor reports that this is the main sticking point. Abbas is insisting that Arabs descended from those who fled Israel in 1948 be allowed to return to Israel, at least in principle.
Bechor says that Abbas and his men have gone over the draft and are not pleased; they know how to negotiate, he notes. In a recent interview with PA TV, Abbas said that "declarations of principles are a waste of time" and "useless." What the PA wants, he said, is a clear timetable for establishing Palestine, as well as an Israeli pullback, demolition of Jewish communities and "return of refugees" (i.e., the flooding of Israel with Arab citizens).
The Arabs are hoping Israel will become more pliable in November, when an international diplomatic conference, sponsored by the US, is to be held in an attempt to hammer out an accord.
An official close to Mahmoud Abbas, Mustafa Bargouti, said that the idea of a conference is "an Israeli trap" and that nothing will come of it."
Madness. He seems bound and determined to follow the path of his mentor and predecessor Ariel Sharon. Will his tenure as PM end as badly? We will see. I pray not. I pray that the Light shines into his Spirit and he repents of the evil and act of betrayal that he has committed in the Land!
I want to share some scriptures with you about dividing the land of Israel. What does God really think about all this?
Take Joel 3: 1-2 "For behold in those days and at that time when I bring the captives of Judah and Jerusalem, I will also gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat; and I will enter into judgement with them there on account of My people, My heritage, Whom they have scattered among the nations; they have also divided my land." - NKJ
Here's the same verse from the Amplified. Very similar in tone but notice the clarification.
Joel 3: 1-2 "For behold in those days and at the time when I shall reverse the captivity and restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem, I will gather all nations and will bring them down into the Valley of Jehoshaphat, and there I will deal with and execute judgement upon them for [Their treatment of] My people and of my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations and [because] they have divided my land." - Amp
So, Judgement is promised on those that have divided the land. It's absolute ignorance of God's Word and madness to be involved in such a process. I pray as a nation we wake up soon!
Want it even plainer than that? Here's the Message translation.
Joel 3: 1-2 "In those days, yes, at that very time when I put life back together again for Judah and Jerusalem, I'll assemble all the godless nations. I'll lead them down into Judgement Valley and put them all on trial because of their treatment of my own people Israel. They scattered my people all over the pagan world and grabbed my land for themselves."
You know, could just be me, but It would seem that Yahweh keeps a dim view this issue of Holy Land grabbing and giving away. And we haven't even touched on Jerusalem yet!
Read Zechariah 12. Find all the translations you can and read that chapter. Let me give you some highlights and you will see the dangers of being a party to this kind of behavior.
Zechariah 12: 2-3 “Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of drunkenness to all the surrounding peoples, when they lay siege against Judah and Jerusalem. And it shall happen in that day that I will make Jerusalem a very heavy stone for all peoples; all who would heave it away will surely be cut in pieces, though all nations of the earth are gathered against it." - NKJ
Zechariah 12: 2-3 "Behold, I am about to make Jerusalem a cup or bowl of reeling to all the peoples round about, and in the siege against Jerusalem will there also be a siege against and upon Judah. And in that day I will make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all peoples; all who lift it or burden themselves with it shall be sorely wounded. And all the nations of the earth shall come and gather together against it." - Amp
Zechariah 12:2-3 "Watch for this: I'm about to turn Jerusalem into a cup of strong drink that will have the people who have set siege to Judah and Jerusalem staggering in a drunken stupor. "On the Big Day, I'll turn Jerusalem into a huge stone blocking the way for everyone. All who try to lift it will rupture themselves. All the pagan nations will come together and try to get rid of it." - Message
Zechariah 12: 2-3 "I will make Jerusalem like an intoxicating drink that makes the nearby nations stagger when they send their armies to besiege Jerusalem and Judah. 3 On that day I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock. All the nations will gather against it to try to move it, but they will only hurt themselves."
Sound familiar? 'Nuff said.
Before I go, here's an interesting side note:
According to "http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/" the Valley of Jehoshaphat does not actually exist at the present time. However, since the meaning of Jehoshaphat is "Yahweh Judges", will this be a literal place God has set aside to bring the judgement in? In the Hebrew the translation is "the plain of the settlement of judgment". Since 333 AD this has been applied to the Valley of Kidron among Christians and Jews alike. Be interesting to see how that plays out.
Thanks for reading,
Shalom Shalom,
John
PS,
I was just reminded of this verse....
Psalms 122: 6-9 Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: “May they prosper who love you. Peace be within your walls, Prosperity within your palaces.” For the sake of my brethren and companions, I will now say, “Peace be within you.” Because of the house of the LORD our God I will seek your good. - NKJ
Amen!
Lets get started.....
Well, it looks like Prime Minister Olmert is at it again.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/123549
Olmert Offers Judea, Samaria, Divides J'lem in Draft Accord
by Gil Ronen
"(IsraelNN.com) Israel's government has agreed, in writing, to hand over 6,250 square kilometers of land – the equivalent of its entire biblical and strategic heartland - to an Arab terror state. So reports Dr. Guy Bechor, a leading expert on Arab affairs, who also supplies some of the details of the negotiations.Bechor reports, based on "leaks from the Palestinian side," that Israel has, in the past few days, presented Palestinian Authority chairman Mahmoud Abbas at least one draft of an "agreement of principles."
The agreement calls for a state named Palestine to be established alongside Israel, and have a territory of 6,250 square kilometers: the equivalent of all of Judea, Samaria and Gaza.
"Palestine" will be demilitarized.
Most of the Jewish communities built in Judea and Samaria over the past 40 years are to demolished and their inhabitants expelled, according to the plan. The remaining communities are to be concentrated in small salients Most of the Jewish communities built in Judea and Samaria over the past 40 years are to demolished and their inhabitants expelled.for which the Arab state will be compensated with additional territory elsewhere in present-day Israel.
A passage of some sort will connect Gaza and Judea and Samaria. It will be under Jewish sovereignty and Palestinian administration.
Israel agrees to redivide Jerusalem. Arab neighborhoods will be under Arab sovereignty and Jewish ones under Jewish sovereignty. Mention is made of "religious areas," but further details are not known as of yet. Each side will recognize the other's spiritual needs.
The "refugee" question is not mentioned at all, and Bechor reports that this is the main sticking point. Abbas is insisting that Arabs descended from those who fled Israel in 1948 be allowed to return to Israel, at least in principle.
Bechor says that Abbas and his men have gone over the draft and are not pleased; they know how to negotiate, he notes. In a recent interview with PA TV, Abbas said that "declarations of principles are a waste of time" and "useless." What the PA wants, he said, is a clear timetable for establishing Palestine, as well as an Israeli pullback, demolition of Jewish communities and "return of refugees" (i.e., the flooding of Israel with Arab citizens).
The Arabs are hoping Israel will become more pliable in November, when an international diplomatic conference, sponsored by the US, is to be held in an attempt to hammer out an accord.
An official close to Mahmoud Abbas, Mustafa Bargouti, said that the idea of a conference is "an Israeli trap" and that nothing will come of it."
Madness. He seems bound and determined to follow the path of his mentor and predecessor Ariel Sharon. Will his tenure as PM end as badly? We will see. I pray not. I pray that the Light shines into his Spirit and he repents of the evil and act of betrayal that he has committed in the Land!
I want to share some scriptures with you about dividing the land of Israel. What does God really think about all this?
Take Joel 3: 1-2 "For behold in those days and at that time when I bring the captives of Judah and Jerusalem, I will also gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat; and I will enter into judgement with them there on account of My people, My heritage, Whom they have scattered among the nations; they have also divided my land." - NKJ
Here's the same verse from the Amplified. Very similar in tone but notice the clarification.
Joel 3: 1-2 "For behold in those days and at the time when I shall reverse the captivity and restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem, I will gather all nations and will bring them down into the Valley of Jehoshaphat, and there I will deal with and execute judgement upon them for [Their treatment of] My people and of my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations and [because] they have divided my land." - Amp
So, Judgement is promised on those that have divided the land. It's absolute ignorance of God's Word and madness to be involved in such a process. I pray as a nation we wake up soon!
Want it even plainer than that? Here's the Message translation.
Joel 3: 1-2 "In those days, yes, at that very time when I put life back together again for Judah and Jerusalem, I'll assemble all the godless nations. I'll lead them down into Judgement Valley and put them all on trial because of their treatment of my own people Israel. They scattered my people all over the pagan world and grabbed my land for themselves."
You know, could just be me, but It would seem that Yahweh keeps a dim view this issue of Holy Land grabbing and giving away. And we haven't even touched on Jerusalem yet!
Read Zechariah 12. Find all the translations you can and read that chapter. Let me give you some highlights and you will see the dangers of being a party to this kind of behavior.
Zechariah 12: 2-3 “Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of drunkenness to all the surrounding peoples, when they lay siege against Judah and Jerusalem. And it shall happen in that day that I will make Jerusalem a very heavy stone for all peoples; all who would heave it away will surely be cut in pieces, though all nations of the earth are gathered against it." - NKJ
Zechariah 12: 2-3 "Behold, I am about to make Jerusalem a cup or bowl of reeling to all the peoples round about, and in the siege against Jerusalem will there also be a siege against and upon Judah. And in that day I will make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all peoples; all who lift it or burden themselves with it shall be sorely wounded. And all the nations of the earth shall come and gather together against it." - Amp
Zechariah 12:2-3 "Watch for this: I'm about to turn Jerusalem into a cup of strong drink that will have the people who have set siege to Judah and Jerusalem staggering in a drunken stupor. "On the Big Day, I'll turn Jerusalem into a huge stone blocking the way for everyone. All who try to lift it will rupture themselves. All the pagan nations will come together and try to get rid of it." - Message
Zechariah 12: 2-3 "I will make Jerusalem like an intoxicating drink that makes the nearby nations stagger when they send their armies to besiege Jerusalem and Judah. 3 On that day I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock. All the nations will gather against it to try to move it, but they will only hurt themselves."
Sound familiar? 'Nuff said.
Before I go, here's an interesting side note:
According to "http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/" the Valley of Jehoshaphat does not actually exist at the present time. However, since the meaning of Jehoshaphat is "Yahweh Judges", will this be a literal place God has set aside to bring the judgement in? In the Hebrew the translation is "the plain of the settlement of judgment". Since 333 AD this has been applied to the Valley of Kidron among Christians and Jews alike. Be interesting to see how that plays out.
Thanks for reading,
Shalom Shalom,
John
PS,
I was just reminded of this verse....
Psalms 122: 6-9 Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: “May they prosper who love you. Peace be within your walls, Prosperity within your palaces.” For the sake of my brethren and companions, I will now say, “Peace be within you.” Because of the house of the LORD our God I will seek your good. - NKJ
Amen!
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